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Help for Hony
A BIG Thanks to all and you can read them below.
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Hi there
Have your vet take a sample of Hony's poop for a wormcount. My stallion had a constant problem with colic that eventually landed him in surgery. To my horror he was infested with worms, even though he has always been on a very good deworming programme and looked in perfect condition. Since then he goes on a course over 6 days of dewormers every now and then and has been colic free for 2 years now. Some horses are apparently soft targets for hardy worms!
Hope it helps
Best regards
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Hi Alan
I am not much help with babies but my mare who is now 19 used to colic every few weeks and ended up in Onderstepoort a couple of years ago having a major op and costing a fortune. Over the years I have worked it out not too much concentrate only 4 kgs a day (Epol maize free) – ad lib grass in stable which is wet add some oil to their food (normal cooking oil is ok) and make sure they graze. My horse is allowed to wander about property all day so she is always moving and eating. I also make sure that if I cannot ride her every day then she is lunged and this seems to have worked so far.
Debbie Allcock
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Hi Hony
About the colic, I have had success with feeding speedy beet in each meal. Also spurwing has a great feed or additive called spurwing hi 5 which is full of roughage. A big secret to no colic is adding hot water to drinking water at about 9PM at night when the weather gets cooler so the horses are encouraged to drink.
Love Donna
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Hey Alan, how's it going, did you know that Rooibos tea is also meant to help with colic?!!!
I would love to help you with feed issues for little hony, i have 3 welsh section a's here and laminitis is our biggest problem.
Firstly no one should be able to advise you accurately with out assessing his Age, size, weight, condition, temperament and work load, if you could fill in that info and tell me everything you are feeding including roughage, supplements, treats etc maybe i can be of help. I am assuming that your worming and dental is all spot on? Is this Hony the one you are showing (the 3 year ish old) or when you say "little hony" do you have another youngster it wasn't quite clear?
Colic's can be noted from stress and psychological conditions as well as feeding, new weaning situations, shows etc usually they get a bit spasmodic (runny tummy/cramps/wind) in mares when ovulating also so it is important to note all factors when identifying reoccurant colic to prevent it, hopefully it is as simple as tweaking his diet. If need be i have a very knowledgeable vet and equine nutritionalist friend at equifeeds who we can get info from, i swore by their feeds throughout my yard of 40 plus horses ranging from ponies to percherons and warmbloods, foals to the aged! Even my fussiest quirkiest horses thrived and i saw very little colic. Good consistent quality hay is paramount, especially in pony breeds where it is sometimes the only feed needed.
Btw I've seen pics of Cosmos, what do u look like? Nice to visualize who I'm talking too!
chat soon
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My foal lost his mother at 5 weeks of age and we had to hand rear him. He was on the milk formula but then when he was old enough we gave him Vitaline balancer cubes.Renita at Vitaline was such a help. Give her a call, and have a look at their web site,
Regards Thelma
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you can buy special feed for young horses in any feed store, and Id be feeding nice pasture hay, unless he has a nice paddock with good feed in it, never over feed youngstock, you can ruin their legs.Dee
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Hi there
We breed Clydesdales, and they get feet problems from too much sugar. I have switched them to Equus Cool and Perform, which does not have any molasses, which is sugar and makes the food rich. Most of our foals get very little concentrate until they are a year old. We feed them mostly chaff and then some Equus. We have always fed lots of chaff with their feed, until we started Equus, now that is not necessary, as it has lots of roughage and that keeps the stomach working. Equus also has yeast that helps with gutt movement, thus keeping away colic. In the 4 years I have had my stud, we have never had a colic yet - thank goodness.
Hope this helps
Regards
Sandy Weber
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Hi!
Worms!
Your feed is probably great! Young foals are always eating or rather chewing on everything and anything as the youngsters have been teething. Watch them. For my second foal I tried toys and straps to no avail she still chewed anything! So I just dewormed every couple of months. Stud farms do this automatically.
I had the problem at 8 months and my vet told me to deworm. I found the deworiming worked for me.
Good luck!
Cathy Myers
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Hello,
I am a fellow horse owner and sell various kinds of feed in East London. I've also raised a horse from 9 months old. Have you ruled out all the other causes of colic: exercise or being active too soon before or after feeding or drinking; eating mouldy feed or lucerne, ingesting sand when grazing, stomach ulcers or stress - maybe from travelling or or separation anxiety? There's a product called Capstone cooltime, which is, in my experience helpful for horses with colic problems if you have ruled everything else out. Maybe contact Vaughn Evans about it at Capstone, he is very knowledgeable and helpful.
Kind regards and good luck,
Nicole.
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Hi
The first question would be what Hony is fed at the moment? From (very expensive!!!) experience, I can say that a horse that colics regularly, should not be fed any form of maize – ie find a feed that does not contain maize as this causes gas which in turn causes the colic. Secondly, keep all baled lucerne away from such a horse. Not only is the lucerne very rich in protein, but if it has the slightest spore in it, no matter how minute, it will cause colic. In other words, one would not even see or smell any rottenness yet, but it can already cause colic. Only feed lucerne in chopped form and then also no more than what is mixed into the commercial feed that you buy. Rather feed good quality eragrostis as roughage. This advice was given to me by the vets at Onderstepoort after my TB had suffered regular bouts of colic and then underwent a colic op when he was 16 years old. He is now 30 years old and has not suffered colic again (ie in 14 years!!) since I started following this advice. (Interestingly enough, he has been on Alzu 12% maize free (which was recently trashed on your site) for all of these years) Also keep any form of herbal supplement away from him as these also build up gasses which cause the colic (no matter how small the amounts that you feed are). Also watch the horse’s water intake. If he refuses to drink water either in the paddock or stable, it will cause problems. Some horses also refuse to drink water that is too hot or too cold to their liking and this can cause colic. Lastly, and this is an old “boereraat” but works with all horses with stomach problems or who are in bad condition – feed him about 500g of plain yoghurt in his feed, every second day for a week, then skip a week and repeat for a week. The yoghurt replaces the necessary bacteria in the stomach which is lost when anti-biotics and other medicines are given and therefore restores the stomach’s natural balance.
Good luck – I hope you find a solution soon.
Juanita
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Some things I tried with a horse that coliced if you looked at him.
A good de - worming programme
Once a week epsom salts in breakfast
Anti Ulcer medication with all meals for 6 months.
green grass thru out the year - cut napier in winter
warm water on cold nights in the water buckets - top up late at night with warm water.
small meals more frequently - i e. 5 meals a day - 6am 9 12 6 and 9pm
I even bought a sheep as a companion for my horse thinking he would enjoy the close company. All he did was maul the poor thing who ended up with another horse in our barn.
Thats all I can think of right now!
Good Luck
Mici
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Melasses - is a wonderful thing to always have - give it along with all the feeds - it does not only just help but also prevent colic from repeating - I will say that the people who mix the feed are using rotten lusern or teff to mix the feeds - You won't believe what they put in their feeds - so feed that extra "Melasses Meel" and prevent it from happening again.
Regards
Janien Strauss
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Hi,
Here is the article about the horse feed in a pdf format, hopefully that is more accessible. It should help you with your Hony too.
Generally, in SA, people tend to feed their horses too much concentrate, as it is cheaper than the correct amount of grass. Look out for laminitic rings on the feet. That will tell the story.
Also look up the henneky scale. Most people have overweight horses too.
Most horses do well on 10%, so feeding a 12% ration may be too rich
I can also suggest that you call Gordon Petrie from Equine Supplements about his live culture probiotic. This often stops chronic colics in their tracks
Regards,
Nichola Landman
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So sorry to hear about Hony!
I swear by Capstone "balancer" cubes! never had any problem with foals on this diet.
Regards
Marie Becker
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Hi there
I really enjoy your newsletters but our IT specialists do not allow access to your website any more!!! Very frustrating!
Have you tried SPEEDY-BEET for Hony’s colic?
For the flies – try hanging ZIPLOC bags filled with water and a couple of shiny coins all over the place. Apparently the reflection of the sun on the coins through the water is too much for flies eyes but I’ve heard from lotsa people it works.
Keep well
Aronel
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Dear Hony
What is your height and your weight ask Alan to use the white measuring tape and then we could possibly help you and what make and type of feed are you being fed at the moment and quantity.
Help is close. Here try this from the homoepath the next time Alan and your stable handler catch the colic early and keep an eye on what happened prior to the onset. 3 tablets of each in a 20 ml syringe every 15 minutes just a skirt of 5mls at a time of mag phos, carbo veg nux vom – one squirt is a dose. Hope this will help you or contact Patsy Divine for a session and ask her for the movement I use on my Abigail.
Happy riding.
Happy Horses, Happy Owners
Jenny Young
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Reply from Alan, Hony & the Team
Once again a very big thanks to all. Just to let you know this morning (Tuesday) he did his little walk of 3.5Km with his paddock friend "Hill Town " and when he was taken to a new paddock with more grass the 2 of them bounced around like little foals. So bottom line Hony is back.
The Vet thinks he had a bug more so than colic. The problem was he was showing colic signs, but not what I have seen before and this was the big problem.
If any one has any more help on more so feeding a foal and or small ponies please send to hony@honystable.com
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